Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:14 pm
Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:48 pm
dzz wrote:
I want to know more about libsystemd0 before I can accept it's installation here.. Need someone on the case with better skills than me (shared libs and C) without a vested interest in ramming it down our necks.
Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:44 pm
Side note: Not sure what is wrong with me, but to me "dependency" is a pretty clear statement. If software works without smoothing, than it is not a dependency, recommends at best.
Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:06 pm
dzz wrote:Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow compilation without systemd. It is Debian who are introducing systemd dependencies even where it is actually optional in the upstream source.
Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:43 pm
Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:02 pm
Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:04 pm
Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 am
dzz wrote:Side note: Not sure what is wrong with me, but to me "dependency" is a pretty clear statement. If software works without smoothing, than it is not a dependency, recommends at best.
Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow compilation without systemd. It is Debian who are introducing systemd dependencies even where it is actually optional in the upstream source.
It is an habit in debian to compile the packages with as many options
as possible as long as it's not adding pile of new dependencies or
causing issues to the other packages in the archive.
IMHO, if you have the (non-technical?) requirement to not have any
systemd component on your system, you'll have to either start building
your own packages ... Or switch to a distribution that allows you to
select which components are enabled at build time.
Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:19 am
To sum it up: No matter whether you use systemd or not, Debian depends
on it.
Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:29 pm
"Twisted" is me LMAO while skimming the modular-debian mailing list postings.That is soooo twisted