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Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:46 am
Thank you for explaining.
I'll report back when i've tried it.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:02 am
fsmithred wrote:Note that with usb, toram will load the entire first partition, and that needs to be less than the total ram on the machine. If you transfer the isohybrid image directly to the usb stick using either the dd or cat command, the first partition will be the same size as the iso file.
I wasn't going to ask anymore questions until i try it but that part is abit confusing to me.
Does that mean if i install cinnamon to say a 500gb HDD and then take a snapshot the copy will be of the entire 500gb drive including the blank space that toram will try and load into the ram?
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:08 pm
No. If you use xz compression* the snapshot will be around 1.4gb, same as the original, plus or minus whatever software you change. If you then transfer the snapshot to usb using 'dd' or 'cat', and you then boot with 'toram', it will use 1.4gb of ram. If instead, you make a multi-boot usb, and the first (or only) partition on the usb stick is 8gb, then using toram will require 8gb.
*see the config file for mksq_opt.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:26 pm
Is Multi-Boot when using persistence?
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:50 pm
No. Pesistence means you can save files that will still be there after a reboot. Without setting up persistence, a live usb works like a live-CD. It's a read-only system.
A multi-boot usb has more than one live system on it, and you can choose which one to boot.
Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:55 pm
Got it , makes perfect sense now.

Thanks
Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:23 am
Just got back and had a quick play and it worked apart from a couple of errors.

Refracta2usb refused to work as it kept spitting out errors , firstly it said i needed to format the drive so i done that with gparted to fat32 with boot flag enabled , it then refused to use it because it was already mounted so i un-mounted and it then spat out a error saying no such drive.
I used the linux mint iso to usb tool and that worked.
On boot after the splash screen i had an error about no hwdb.bin and to run something in regards to it but i can't remember the exact name. not sure if i saw a red error warning or not before desktop as the text flashed past too quickly.
On shutdown most of the text was flagged as green and ok apart from about 3 red warning lines saying it couldn't un-mount the live system but it still shutdown ok.
I'm really impressed with your tools , having a full desktop in ram is awesome.
Hope you guys are not stopping this project any time soon as i've spent months searching for something like this.
I've heard about refracta a few times the last couple of years and thought it was just a live disk OS , so i wonder how many other people there are out there that didn't realize about the awesome tools and annoyingly went past it a few times like me.
Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:11 pm
No plans to stop any time soon. I like having a live usb with my choice of apps and my files on it, one way or another.
Sorry you had trouble with refracta2usb. I'll take a look at the warnings and work flow for improvement. I usually blow through it so quickly, I might not have noticed some potential hang-ups. Most of the errors I get are corrected with a Rescan (it's in the main menu.)
And I guess I should take a look at some other live-usb tools, so I know whether or not I can say that mine is way cooler. The 'no such device' message can happen if you pull a stick out and plug it back in, or if you mount a stick with gvfs and then unmount it. With gvfs, the icon appears on the desktop, you click on in to open it, then eject when you're done. Then it disappears from the desktop, and I think you have to unplug and replug the stick. Sometimes it gets the next drive letter.
We used to be listed on the wikipedia page for live-usb software, but somewhere along the line, we got removed.
Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:29 pm
Cheers for the feedback and the suggestions.
I can't remember if i unplugged the USB stick or if i used the eject as it was only a quick test.Though it's odd that it asked for it to be formatted as it was already a Fat32 drive with Boot enabled.
i'll have to try it again when i have more time later this week as a new version of linux Mint 18 has been released.
Is the hwdb.bin error at bootup anything to be concerned about?
Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:15 am
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=189536It seems from the thread above at ArchLinux the hwdb.bin error can be ignored unless it's added to initramfs but a developer seems to think it's a waste of time.
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