Lots of thanks must go out to Wouter Cloetens, wcloeten@raleigh.ibm.com for getting me started , additional info from Boas Betzler, Andreas Neuper and Herman Bos
and to Bart Geens ,Bart.Geens@advalvas.be for rereading this howto and findin uot lost of splelling errosr
Also thanks to all the different people that wrote me with hints and help although I might have forgotten to include some of their comments, if you think your part is missing, please mail me ;-)