From: Kien Pham <xengren@yahoo.com>
  To  : ggi-develop@eskimo.com
  Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:52:30 -0700 (PDT)

Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GGI and Hurd.

--- Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
wrote:
> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:47:28 +0200
> From: Marcus Brinkmann
> <Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
> To: Kien Pham <xengren@yahoo.com>
> CC: debian-hurd@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: GGI and Hurd.
> Organisation: Marcus Brinkmann's Home
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 10:07:26PM -0700, Kien Pham
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It seems that the Hurd guys are very receptive to
> the
> > > idea
> > > > of GGI. 
> > I assumed this from the replies to my message. If I'm
> > wrong, you can go ahead and hit me with a wet paddock.
> > > What source information is this statement based on?
> :-))
> 
> GGI is an interesting concept, and in my opinion it mixes
> well with the
> modular and extensible structure of the Hurd. It's good
> that GGI had to
> develop most of their stuff outside of the Linux kernel,
> this should make it
> easier portable.
> 
> > > > Who's is/wants to work on this and how may I be of
> > > > assistance? 
> > > 
> > > I could use the help of someone working on a HURD
> port of
> > > the
> > > KGI environment. Just to prove portability of the
> display
> > > drivers.
> > > The first thing to do would be a little summary
> > > how consoles currently done under Hurd, and what the
> > > future 
> > > plans are.
> 
> (I don't know much about the Hurd terminal driver and the
> intentions of the
> developers. I expect them to jump in and explain it
> better).
> 
> Currently, we have a terminal driver for the console, but
> it is not very
> feature rich. It works (of course), but AFAIK it was
> never meant to be the
> one and only terminal driver for the Hurd.
> 
> Consoles are managed by the "term" translator. Please
> refer to the source
> how it is done. The term translator also cares about tty
> and com devices.
> 
> The next step was to port the Linux char drivers to GNU
> Mach, so we could
> use PS/2, for example, and other stuff (like dev/random).
> Okuji did a lot of
> qwork on that, but currently the development seems to
> have stalled a little
> bit.
> 
> Maybe it would be a good idea to help Okuji with this and
> go from there?
> 
> > > > I must warn you, I've not much experience with
> > > > Hurd, but I'm a proficient Linux programmer. (At
> least
> > > > that's what I tell all the girls. :) )
> > > 
> > > A little summary how to contact resposible persons of
> the
> > > HURD team,
> > > how to get up-to-date development snapshots, etc.
> would
> > > be useful.
> 
> Ok, here you are:
> 
> or developers, the relevant mailing list is
> bug-hurd@gnu.org. If you have
> general questions about the HUrd, you can also use
> help-hurd@gnu.org, but
> development should probably not be discussed there. And:
> development of Hurd
> solely should also not discussed on this list, if it is
> not related to
> Debian. Burt the borders are very smooth, and the
> important people are
> subscribed to all lists.
> 
> The development snapshots are available in binary form
> from any Debian
> mirror in the directory
> debian/dists/sid/main/binary-hurd-i386. Pgp is only
> available outside of USA:
>
ftp://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/sid/non-US/main/binary-hurd-i386
> 
> Some software is also only available from
> ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/hurd
> (check especially debian/ and contrib/marcus). On alpha
> you will also find
> source snapshots.
> 
> Installation instructions are available at
> http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/~mcv21/hurd.html
> 
> You can also get the Hurd and GNU Mach from CVS. See
> http://www.gnu.org/software/devel/
> 
> for details on repositories.
> 
> Please forward this information to the GGI mailing list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcus
> 
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