From: Moses DeJong <dejong@cs.umn.edu>
  To  : GGI Developers <ggi-develop@eskimo.com>
  Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:39:45 -0500

Re: Java and GGI.. *grr*

Perhaps you could try using the Kaffe open JVM. The source code is "clean
room" so you would not have to worry about hacking on it. I happen to know
kaffe runs Java programs very well and it works on all kinds of systems.
See www.kaffe.org for more info.

Mo DeJong
dejong at cs.umn.edu

On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, teunis wrote:

> Grr.  And double grr.
> 
> Java-1.1 works but no components.
> Java-1.2 won't work for now.
> 
> Stoopid Java shared libs are written requiring X and Motif.  I -could-
> build a Java that's GGI-compatible but it would require working with the
> Java source and that's a *grr* licence-violation.
> At least if I release anything it is.
> 
> On the flip side Java/native and GGI -do- coexist nicely... as long as GGI
> is completely thread-enabled.  Be sure to install signal catchers to
> collect various abort signals though or yer desktop is hooped if anything
> aborts.  Java's bad for aborting a lot....
> 
> Any better ideas for testcode?
> I have things working (it's ugly).
> AFAIK Java -will- eventually be motif/X free for basic stuff.  I will keep
> watching.  If anyone has any better ideas let me know, he?
> 
> G'day, eh? :)
> 	- Teunis
> 
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